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     Hello everybody! The purpose of this thread is to discuss the widespread hatred towards reptilian beings that is/has been consuming a large part of the growing, mainstream spiritual community. I would also like to discuss it’s theorized purpose, and how it effects/will affect the spiritual growth of humanity.

 

   I believe there are two categories of people that allow this kind of hatred to invade their mindset, and I would like to discuss both.

   The first category are those who have been thoroughly manipulated by the spiritual propaganda that is currently being pushed by so many individuals. Their lack of experience combined with their desire for answers makes them easy targets for those hoping to spread their ideals of hatred. The fact that we’re exposed to depictions of reptiles being evil, dark, negative, nasty, ect., from children stories all the way to up to religion, makes humans more prone to be influenced by this kind of prejudice and fear. Certain things rest within the subconscious, and as we grow in this world, what we are exposed to influences how we experience this reality. The people in this category have no experiential proof to back up their hatred and discrimination, and hold fear-based articles and YouTube videos to enforce their claims instead of actual first-hand familiarity. This category makes up the majority of those who harbor and push this kind of prejudice. This may seem unfortunate, but it would be worse if there were more people that would fall into the second category below.

   The second category of people is a group of souls that have an experiential justification that fuels their hatred towards reptilian beings. Whether it be a past life(s) or a negative spiritual experience(s), they hold on to what they feel is a logical reason… a justification for feeling the way they feel, and to spread the ideals of hatred they spread. The deeper the personal pain is, whether it be pain that occurred directly to the self or empathetic pain for others that had endured a terrible hardship, the harder it is for them to let go of this hatred. The fact of the matter is, this hatred is an expression that signifies unresolved pain, and these souls express a desperate need to understand what happened to them or to others. It is this category of individuals that is the root source of this propaganda, or the anti-reptile(and other races too) movement. It pushes them to enforce their ideals of justice with action instead of just some ill inner feelings. The propaganda that has been created is simply the product of one of these actions. Hatred and pain evolves into ill intentions for some, only, the perpetrator fully believes that what he/she is doing is the right thing to do. It’s simply too hard to look at the part of themselves that hurts SO much, and so instead of fixing their mindset, they feel their mindset is correct, and feel that it is their intentions and actions that will fix the world around them. These people simply need to realize that what they’re doing goes against their very own ideals of peace that they desperately hold onto.

    So all in all, the TRUE hatred towards reptilian beings, and other ET races are TRULY felt by those enduring a grueling pain in their soul, and those who believe it with nothing other than “here-say,” are being manipulated by the ones harboring this TRUE hatred, and feeling TRUE pain.

   Humanity is a collection of spiritual children, mostly, that is greatly influenced by what they come into contact with, which means even the slightest bit of information and/or experiences can greatly influence what a human being considers real and not real, true and not true, ect.... even if they don't know it. That is what makes this propaganda successful at what it is reaching for. They try their hardest to rally up members to spread the hatred like wildfire, because the more people that believe it, even a little, the more they increase their chances of it effecting the individual, spiritual mindsets of those who take it in. I also believe that many of the fear-based conspiracy theories capture people who want to escape facing the truth of our collective actions on this planet and ourselves, as human beings. It's easy to point the finger and blame, but not easy for people to accept, face up to what we've done, and move on. These conspiracy theories encourage the idea of running away from our past mistakes.

    As for the purpose behind spiritually manipulating humans in this way, I have a few guesses, but not many people can know for sure. I know that all of this decreases the rate at which humanity grows, spiritually, but why do this? Maybe it’s about raising humanity to become a war species, or maybe it’s simply to make humanity easier to control. I would like to discuss this with you guys further.

   If there was awareness in the future of ET races and the spiritual aspect of things, whether it be soon or a thousand years from now, it is likely that individuals like myself will be ostracized because of their spiritual ties to what our culture would consider "evil" or "dark" beings. All this is hypothetical of course.

   As an added note, there are countless reptilian species that exist on countless planets throughout the Universe that each have their own distinct characteristics. To label all reptilian beings evil is simply too ignorant.

   To clarify, I am not ignoring or discrediting anyone who has had negative contact experiences with reptilian beings. I am discrediting the arbitrary labeling and discrimination of an entire collection of races, that seems to have invaded the minds of many within the spiritual community. One can argue that there are not many “positive reptilian experiencers” to support my opinions, but I would disagree. Money controls what gets publicized, and with all of the people claiming reptilian beings to be evil, despicable beings... don’t you think people would be reluctant to share their positive reptilian experiences with the public? I certainly was… for a long time. The fear and paranoia I witnessed coming from many, MANY people made me fear that some extremists would find out where I live and burn my house down in the name of justice if I decided to be outspoken about it all…. and I’m sure I wasn’t the only one. Obviously, I overcame this laughable fear. It was just that the hateful words and accusations towards reptilian beings on the internet would make a list too long to for me to write, and yes, it was scary for me. The day I decided to look up “reptilians" and "spirituality” years back was a devastating blow to me. I was directed from google to the david icke forums, and that place is simply the deepest cesspool of hatred towards reptiliansthat has ever existed. That day, my heart was pounding, I was sweating profusely, and I felt like I couldn’t breathe… I damn near had a panic attack. The beings that I’ve loved since I was a child were being constantly disrespected with accusations of all colors. The reality of it all was hitting me at that moment. I’m hoping that by being outspoken about my experiences and spiritual beliefs, I can set an example for those that feel they need to keep their feelings and experiences a secret.

    Another clarification. I am not claiming all reptilian beings to have positive intentions either. That statement, too, would be a form of discrimination. Any statement or ideal suggesting something that separates reptilian beings from the rest of the universe of beings is prejudiced, whether it be of a positive nature or a negative one. Reptilian beings are souls of this universe, like any other. Please treat them as such within your own mind.

   I also understand that reptilian beings aren’t the only ones beings targeted by the common propaganda. This article is for allthose who are being oppressed by the disinfo and propaganda. We are in this together.

   To those that fall into the second category, that happen to be reading this, please listen to me. Please open your heart to understanding. All I, and so many others, want is to help heal whatever wounds you may have. Share with us your pain, your anguish. Show us what you or your loved ones have went through, we will get through this together. We will be with you, we will heal with you… we will cry WITH you. Please read my story in this link below. I know first hand how it feels to hold onto a justification. I hated humanity along with myself, and I held on to what happened to others and to me to justify a personal crusade. Please try to understand that the hatred you feel doesn't serve what you truly desire.

http://www.starseeds.net/forum/topics/a-summary-of-my-traumatizing-...

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    All in all, I simply ask everyone to use your own rational judgment, and to not be spiritually manipulated by another person’s hatred. Don’t let your unruly emotions and suggestions control the way think and feel about an entire class of species. Search for understanding. If you feel that some information you came into contact with may be correct, then put it in the back of your head until you experience something that confirms that information. Only then can you say, “I fully believe this.” Watching a YouTube video doesn’t mean you KNOW. Experiencing is knowing. Please, don’t simply believe something fully with no experiential backup. Suspecting is not believing, believing is not knowing.

    As a reptilian starseed, I love my soul family so very much. I am proud of who and what I am, and I always will be. All I want is mutual understanding. You don’t have to love with all your heart, just don’t hate… just don’t assume. I warship Nature, which means EVERY SINGLE BEING in this universe deserves my love. There is no exception.

   Thank you all for reading, and I hope to have some productive discussions about this soon. I'm eager to read any and all views regarding this. Lets not argue and discredit each other, but lets bring each other closer to an understanding as we converse about it all.

  

 

                                                                                                             With infinite love for all,

                                                                                                             Markus

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Hey pos...I got a couple of pix for you the other day...guess here is a good place to post them.  There is a Tibetan relic tour going around the world.  These relics are pearl like crystals found in the ashes when a living Buddha has been cremated...seeing them or being near them is a very high frequency experience. People also bring their pets to get blessings.. This first pic is the display of the relics...here is the link to a gallery of pix..

http://www.maitreyarelictour.com/gallery/

here is a pic of a lizzie being shown the sacred texts..

this is a blessing, by placing a relic on the head....they do this with the children and peeps, too..

   This is awesome! Thank you for this Living Light. I find it interesting that I was posting a comment on your profile at the same time you posted this comment here. Haha! That's gotta mean something right? 

   Anyways, thanks again!

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we got the sync....

indeed!

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Thank you for posting this as the spiritual grandchild of a Draconian Queen and King I want to say that experiences with them have been positive. They do not abduct so there's one really dark thing out of the way. I miss them very much and try to channel them when I can.  

  No problem Amy, thanks for reading!

[hugs]

Oh man, I've been to one of these showings twice now. It was a beautiful experience each time. There's so much energy in the little pearls of wisdom left by those age old teachers (literally and figuratively lol).

The blessing at the end is also quite transformative.

I had a ringing in my ears for days as I made a conscious effort to assimilate the higher frequencies.

Did you get some of the saffron infused holy water too? :D

This is indeed a great truth.

Whichever way one sways on the pendulum of prejudice, one is not seeing clearly until all sides are equal and valid.

It's easy to make enemies of that which is foreign, or seeming unrelatable.

To witness all as a part of self is what eventually turns the tables.

Love is natural, hate is a construct, a defunct method of protection that correlates to our false projections of rights and wrongs... goods and evils. 

We are all perfect, for we ARE ALL.

I feel you my reptilian brother. 

Keep fighting the good paradoxical fight of non-duality and truth seeking!

Thank you for reading, and for the positive feedback. I think  you would have loved the comments that were on this thread before it was taken down and I reposted. So many people sharing and understanding what this is all about, it was a sight that brought tears to my eyes. 17+ pages of comments, 5k+ views, was put on the featured discussions of ISN, and on ISN's twitter and facebook, heh...

   One point I want to bring up, that I remember from those comments, is something geared towards those who had or have reptilian experiences. I think some people are ill-prepared for the intense energy that goes along with these experiences, and view it as a spiritual attack due to the negative effects produced, even if there was no malicious intent on the other end. Strong energies in any form can have this effect on the human body and mind if someone isn't used to this kind of thing, it can take people by surprise.

   Thanks again for reading!

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Bump!
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I am related to a group of beings who. Ought be classed as reptilian. They are dragon people. They are blue or green. Their primary focus is peace and they have been trying to educate humanity out of their obsession with war for centuries.

This felt like it was on Earth but so long time ago I had no sense of how much it was since then. Me ,some friends and other people we were climbing enormous structures built in the walls of a rocky desolated canyon that would put Grand Canyon to shame in terms of size..it was that damn big. And as we did so I noticed one of the biggest things that I ever saw, by now. It was a structure ,a temple but so old, so ancient it had already become part of the walls of the canyon, again. Its walls were terribly eroded, covered in a dark greysh-greenish mosss and the sheer size of this thing...imagine Petra because that's what I thought it at first to be. But then imagine our Petra temple complex only atleast 1000x times larger ,wider and taller ,without any exagerations. There were huge halls about half a mile wide and tall ,separated by walls which had narrow entrances and windows and were fully decorated . The whole thing was the most astonishing work of art I have ever heard off or saw. As big as it was, everywhere there were sculptures and depictions and art embedded into walls. I couldn't fathom the sheer amount of time it would took to do that unless it would have been done by those higher technologies of building with the mind.
The temple was madeup of these halls and somehow it looked like it was layered ..there was a temple within a temple because there was the exterior which was very eroded and already you could not tell the difference between the walls and the natural formations of the canyon itself and there was another darker temple built in similar fashion, within it.
At first I kept saying this looks like Petra and this region is somewhere in Middle-East/ Iran/Irak area because that's how it felt...but it's so damn big..what is this ? Because I saw other people as they were climbing those walls up and down ,not realizing it was a structure . Others knew and they were exploring the halls . There was an old friend of mine there aswell and I warned him that this is a very ancient sacred site of "them" ..that we should be careful but explore it since we have the chance to do it.
Before I could zoom in and out of the canyon and in a way explore the whole thing just by zooming in and out with my vision as far or as close as I wanted but I desired to be there in body ,to explore it ,as a tourist, as others.
And then I realized this whole temple was so big, so large I couldn't see the end of it, not even with my zooming ability. It looked like it had margines, a few kilometers tall and wide but it felt much more expansive than that, with inner layers of a temple within a temple within a temple . And that was just the visible part, I was sure it extended far beyond that within the walls of the canyon itself and down into the ground.So I went inside in one of the inner temple halls and what I saw instantly amazed me even further. The walls themselves were all covered in a most beautiful art depicting reptilian motives and traditions and history and so many symbols and geometry there,again every wall was covered in those.
But inside that hall there was what looked like a frozen movie scene or it also felt like it was so much slowed down that they looked like statues instead of living beings.
There were, I remember, 3 or 4 huge reptilian beings and they were fighting other several smaller and more human-like reptilians in what looked like a very ancient battle scene.
And then the information just, you could breath the information about what that scene meant, it just entered your mind if you were curious about it.
So far back in time, in terms of millions of years. That was a rebellion that took place back on the mother-planet of the reptilians.
The original race ,the first 3 beings ,they were part of that. And they were big..very big. They were about 8 meters/26 foot tall and I felt I was facing some of their most proud warriors. There was something in this scene,this ancient confrontation that would make you stare in amazement and wonder and admiration,regardless of what we know about them. Their bodies were extremely solid all around, very robust, very muscular but fully reptilian appearance ,crocodiles ,green scales and fiery eyes with heads like those of the crocodiles. And they were winged. That's when the information came about that these were the first and the true winged reptilians. The others were a fake, was told.
They had huge green scaled wings on their backs and it felt like those wings had a physical appearance/purpose but there was also another side of them, existing on a higher vibration, which the reptilians were fully aware of and that's where they got much of their strength and intelligence. They had no humanity or resemblance to humans, besides walking on two feet. It just felt they were fully aware and present on their own level of consciousness which was one of pure aggresion and desire for power, for expansion and domination. I was for a few moments fully merged with that reptilian consciousness to feel it and it was so ancient so..pure in a sense,as it had no other influence but theirs, it left me utterly fascinated.
Further the information came that in time there was a division, a gene division within their race. Something/someone, like a much more advanced ET race intervened in the process of their own evolution ..something happened which they didn't expect or knew how to prevent. A new generation of reptilians emerged, much smaller with wings that looked more like apendages and much more human-like. And this happened ,the information told, when the original reptilians got heavely involved in conquering human-like worlds, Earth came to mind also since I felt like I was on Earth and that was a Temple built in a remote time long ago way before even the annunaki history on earth begun ~400.000BC. They had been here way before that and the remnants of those occurences were long ago wiped off..the temple was still there on an etherical /astral level so to say which is why I could see it.
The emergence of this new race of reptilians had generated a civil war . The higher ones saw it as a gruesome insult to their honour, pride, value of the race. They saw it as a terrible downgrade and at first used these smaller reptilians as slaves. They did not expect such thing should happen, they only saw evolution as means for their race to evolve further and further in strength and power.
These other ones were still huge, compared to us humans. They were about 4-6 meters tall and very muscular very robust bodies aswell. Only they were very human like altought they still had tails and a crocodile-like appearance to their heads but with human-like faces and small wings but not all had them. But they were no match for the original race.Their bodies, compared to those were like chopsticks.
Yet still they became their own thing, proud of themselves and called themselves winged reptilians ,trying to steal that honour from their higher ones.
The frozen scene I was facing symbolized the civil war and the fighting that took place between the two races when the lesser ones finally rebelled and sought independence. It was a battle scene with both parties wavering weapons that looked like heavy axes but it was much more advanced weaponry than that.
At first the original race used the second race as servants,as a means to further expand their territory in Cosmos . They would send those to conquer worlds of lesser priority and focus themselves on the higher prioritized targets.
But when the second-hand reptilians came to Earth they begun realizing that the native species of earth, the primitive humans were revering them as gods and they were also chopsticks in comparison to them, in strength and intelligence. Which brought about to themselves the confidence to rebel against their own masters and call themselves true winged reptilians aswell. But as they stayed on Earth a third generation of the race came about which was a heavy combination of reptilian and human gene pool. These were even smaller, with no tail or wings and almost fully human-looking faces and body . They still retained the green skin, without the scales and again, a much more robust well-rounded form, much more physical strength and intellect than the humans with which they mixed.
And the reason I was shown all of this I didn't quite get it ..yet I do.
It was the first ones, the connection with them ,there was a strong connection there since it felt so familiar to be again in that place, so long ago. And they were trying to show me ,in a way, from their perspective, how things happened, the untold history of the evolution of their race. From their point of view, they tried to show all of this in order for me to understand why is such a disgrace that the reptilians we know today, they are only a rebelious and far lesser representation of what they truly are.
And I felt this very strongly. The dissapointment that today we know about the winged reptilians who are enslaving worlds but that it was a deception, that these were actually degenerates, slaves that rebelled and acted as being the actual true winged reptilians but with which, in comparison, they were no match, size,strength and intelligence wise. It's something that they value the most, this pride in being the first race and the most powerful..and having their own offsprings to change into lesser forms of that, created a huge dissapointment in their consciousness. It changed the first ones and this was also in the message, it changed them, in a way it said they felt they were not to blame for what the second race did to humans ,or at least they dreadfully regret it..since if they knew that the involvement and conquering of human worlds would lead to the coming of a second and a third reptilian race all of which are much lower in quality, they would have not done that. From a human point of view today this might look like just a pride thing but from that ancient perspective of those ,it was a very powerful and meaningfull message. And that they weren't that much to be hated for everything we hate about the reptilians, today. Most of it is still the work of the second race and the third race that came.
It would seem ridiculous here and now for people to take on this point of view and maybe pointless but when I was there, seeing all of that, reviewing those ancient times, it made much sense,at least, as a personal message to me, not for everyone.
As much as that consciousness of theirs was all about pride and domination it was also infused with powerful knowledge about the laws of the Universe and I was in amazement towards themselves,as I stood there in that temple, staring at the frozen battle scene. Looking at those true winged ones, it felt more like I was seeing a priest-like being, shamanic in nature, not just the warrior mentality.
I have seen all these countless reptilian depictions we have today but none was even close to matching the true form of the first reptilians. It wasn't just about size and strength..it was that they also radiated tremendous wisdom and knowledge . .It is an achievement few races have made, to become that powerful, physically ,that much advanced in darkness, in aggresion and yet retain the higher knowledge of the light, of the laws of Universe, to integrate both.
And in a sense, a message that we can do the same. That is time to find out the truth about the so called reptilian warlords that are enslaving the world, that they're not as strong as they say. That they were/are still slaves themselves to the first race and rebellious fugitives.Just as they rebelled against their masters and took the title for themselves, so can we. It's again, a pride thing for the original race, to see humans rebel against the second and the third race,as a proof that they weren't actually true winged ones.
The first ones are not that much involved in warmongering anymore, the events and the division within their own race in the last millions of years changed the view on things to different ways of achieveing domination and power, other than war and destruction.

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