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The Orion Civilization
The Orion civilization is primarily 89% Vegan in nature. Of that 89% Vegan genetics, we would say that 75% is of the human-type, Vegan-based genetics. The remaining 14% would be considered nonhuman-type Vegan genetics. Therefore, your stories of reptiles from Orion, although they are embellished somewhat (usually by the emotional body), are accurate because there are those nonhuman-type entities with Vegan-based genetics living within the Orion system (or have in the past) that account for those stories. Primarily it is Vegan in nature.

This would be the body types with the very high copper content that is due not only to the genetic line but the diet?

Yes, most definitely. Your bodies here on Earth are based on water and though theirs have water as a primary substance to some degree, a certain oil or fatty content lubricates the body, the skin. Kind of like the idea of the engine in a car; the gears turn because of the oil. One thing we want to mention is a uniqueness in the eyes of Orions. Through very strict spiritual training, which includes diet, ceremony and certain psychic experiences, various priests in the Orion system can change their eye color to a very vivid blue. Some of your people have had encounters with these Orion-type entities with very sharp blue eyes. If anyone has, it is most likely that the entity they are contacting is a priest of some sort, for the eye color is not natural at birth but is attained through a type of spiritual path.

We told you that 89% of the Orion entities are Vegan in nature. The remaining 11% are of a Lyran stock. We would say that of that 11%, 90% are of the light-brown-skinned people we've talked about and the remaining 10% are of the Caucasian-type Lyran - light hair. They are rare, but of course if you're talking about several billions in population, then that could account for a goodly amount of people.

And they do tend to be aggressive, to leave their mark?

Yes, generally that is the common theme. These are the most common physical attributes of these Orion entities. Getting a little esoteric for a moment, as you get into the rarified vibrations, as you're getting into higher levels of fourth density, the physical appearances really become very malleable and not all that important. What we're talking about is the third-density and early fourth-density characteristics, because that's when the genetic differences are very marked, very apparent.

Is there enough genetic similarity that natural cross-breeding is possible?

Yes, absolutely.

What about between the Lyran and the Vegan types?

We would say that if you took a random Lyran and a random Vegan, there is a 60% chance that the birth would be successful without any alteration whatsoever.

What would the result look like?

In some ways like a typical ethnic person on your planet. Now we're getting into the idea of the breeding on your planet. There have been two lines active on your planet. The royal houses of Vega - which actually have changed hands and are now the royal houses of Sirius, but are the Vegan genetics - and the royal houses of Lyra. Your interbreeding with each other throughout history has been an attempt at unifying those houses. So it stands to reason, then, that any crosses between the two out there would primarily be successful with very little manipulation.

Here another excerpt from "Humanity's Extraterrestrial Origins", by Dr. Arthur David Horn, P.O. Box 1632, Mount Shasta, CA 96067.

I added few comments in italic for some further explanations.
The Orion Empire

The "Orions" have a very negative reputation in much of the esoteric UFO/ET/alien literature because they have engaged in many conflicts and in much destructive wars with other ETs of this universe, as we saw in the book we used as an introduction to human galactic heritage, The Prism of Lyra (see Lyssa Royal). Other esoteric sources inform us that the greys that have perhaps had the most contact with humans, through abductions, in the past thirty years, are from a star system neighboring the Orion constellation, known as Zeta Reticuli. While evidence indicates that many of the greys have been on earth for centuries manipulating human societies, the Zetas are believed to have arrived on the earth in the past 40 years, having made treaties with the secret government of the United States and probably other Earth governments. The Zeta's apparently have a genetic base that is more insectoidal than the more reptilian greys described above. All of the greys almost certainly have their own hierarchy amongst themselves. Most of the greys themselves are servants, or mercenaries, of the lizzies, or the reptilian race. The greys, or most of them, make up what is known as the Orion Empire. The lizzies are members of what they call the Federation of the Draconian Reptoids. The Orion Empire and the Federation of Draconian Reptoids work together and with other regressive ETs to try to dominate and control several planets in this universe, including Earth.

There are many Zeta-Reticulis as well entities who origin from Orion constellation, who are embodied in human-bodies as result of their karmic interference they did. I met a few people who remember or at least feel their affinity to Orion, or even the Greys, and they are spiritual aware people, and in very few cases now why they are here now.

The short greys are overseen within their own ranks by the taller seven to eight foot tall greys. These greys are the ones that actually carry out "diplomatic" missions, such as secretly negotiating treaties with heads of human governments. As mentioned the greys in general, and the small three to five foot greys in particular, have been likened to mercenaries.

The greys, as a group, would seem to be rather weak genetically. Most of them are reported to have no genitals, and are unable to sexually reproduce. Reproduction among the greys takes place mostly in the laboratory through a cloning process. Remember our own earth scientists can "manufacture" a simple organism such as a frog, through cloning. It is therefore easy to imagine an older species being able to clone much more complex beings, such as themselves. However, they have become a genetically weak species over the course of their history because of nuclear wars in their past, genetic engineering done of their species in the past, through the deleterious effects of thousands and millions of years of cloning, and other reasons of which we or they may not even be aware.


We learn more about the genetic and other weaknesses of the greys by turning the focus of our investigation to the metaphysical and spiritual development of the greys. We have already seen that the greys often exhibit marvelous metaphysical capabilities, such as walking through walls and mental telepathy, although there seems to be a question of how much these capabilities are a result of natural evolution, and how much of it is the result of advanced technology.

In Valerian we read that many of the greys involved with humans, like their lizzie masters, exist in dimensions beyond the three dimensions that humans know. What we call "dimensions" are often referred to as "densities" in metaphysical literature. There are many fifth and fourth density greys interacting with humans. Fifth density beings have no bodies, but fourth density beings, especially "lower forth density" beings might appear as third density beings to humans. In fact fourth density greys can transit between third and fourth density. ...

Fifth dimensional "lizzies" do not exist, just to rephrase the above paragraph, since there exist no form-giving bodies (according his view). The diversity of fourth dimensional forms comes from the creation of form within the fifth dimension, where the major starry doorways operates (Pleiades, Sirius, Orion etc) and their light-beings.

That the fourth density greys do assist humankind to get aware of the fourth dimension (astral-plane). In some channelings I came across, it was pointed out that the Internet, as example, is a typical transition technology from third to fourth dimension.

Esoteric sources and mystical traditions here on earth suggest that humans develop a society based on love and compassion for each other and all of Creation in order for us to reach our fullest spiritual potential. The love and compassion should include the greys, who, as we have seen, are a rather pathetic, dying species, having genetically engineered emotions out of their physical entities. This does not mean we have to tolerate their diabolical behavior. Nor does it mean that we are responsible for saving them from their sad physical and spiritual state. On a higher spiritual level, these regressive ETs may be here, in fact, to HASTEN our own evolution toward the light and away form the darkness that these aliens and our secret government represent!

This last paragraph above just points very exactly what really it important: understanding duality, and not indulging within it. We have to grow in our true strength as equals, we as humans aren't less because we as spirits incarnate into a dense reality like physical reality. Spirits are equals, their expressions vary dependent which form it takes.

11:11 and Solara

Another connection to Orion has Solara, a wonderful woman who initiated the activation of 11:11 at January 11, 1992. From my point of view, she was doing a major integration work for those who needed to heal their victim pattern originated from the Orion, as she says, from the EL - AN - RA (Mintaka, Al Nilam, Al Nitak).

As AN represents the integration of the duality aspect which the starry doorway represents. People who attended at 11:11 where those who needed the integration in their fourth/fifth dimensional body, which for some triggered the remembrance of the purpose of their current incarnation. Which then allowed many awaken starseeds to increase the vibration and awareness of the entire mass-consciousness by radiating their remembrance into.

Many projects in the early 90's until now, where possible to happen so fast due the preparation of 11:11, especially thankful were those angelical starseeds who could recover from deep guiltyness and self-judgment they kept.

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Orion Teachings From Ancient Egypt
2008 June 26
tags: 8D, age of Leo, ancient egypt, ET parents, ET teachers, ets, galactic council, galactic holograph viewing room, lightworkers, orion, Orion Starbeing, other aspects of ourselves, Past Life Memories, photon light, Pyramids, star beings, star seeds, UFOs, wanderers
by Denise

This is a continuation of my past life memories in Egypt (as a male) around 12,600 b.c. I’ve already written a bit about what both the 5D Pleiadian - the Sacred Artist, and the 6D Sirian - the Sacred Architect, Star beings taught myself and their numerous other Starseeds back then. Now I’ll share what I’ve remembered so far about the 8D Orion Star being, a member of the Sacred Galactic Council.

(Orion the 8th dimensional Star being as I knew him in my past life in Egypt 12,600 b.c.)

Personally I’m not terribly fond of titles like the one I just used above - the Sacred Galactic Council - but they’re necessary to even be able to express and share information like this. Like it or not, that was the title this 8D being from Orion was labelled with, just as the Sirian and Pleadian were with their unique titles. These titles represented their home dimensional energies more than anything else so please keep that in mind and don’t think about this 8D title with old lower world 3D awareness.

One of my favorite training lessons in this past life was with Orion (that was the name he used at that time) and it was learning how to pilot a small two-seater UFO up and down the Nile. Now don’t freak out…this was normal way back then just like learning how to drive a car is today for 15-16 year olds. Most of us young starseeds learned how to pilot these smaller UFOs because it was more about learning mental and emotional control and focus than anything else really. Those UFOs could be directed and flown by the pilots mental focus alone, or, by both mental focus and partial auto-pilot or total auto-pilot when one needed a break. Many of the tools in this life in Egypt (12,600 b.c. ) were used like this. The Ankh was another tool of many that was controlled by the operators focused mental and emotional energies. They were marvelous highly advanced tools in themselves, but when mentally and emotionally directed by higher dimensional beings like Orion or the other Star beings or starseeds, they came to life and did amazing things; things like cut through stone like it was room temperature butter!

My personal memory of flying this small UFO was at first very difficult and extremely draining because of the lengthy and intense mental focus. You wouldn’t believe how exhausting it is to continually keep your thoughts on ONLY one or two things, like flying a UFO and not crashing, and not let them wander off into something else or just stare off out a window at the world below! So at first this was real serious work for me but with time and practice, it became easier to focus my thoughts and intentions for longer periods on what I wanted that small UFO to do…when, where, and for how long. Eventually it became much like driving a car in heavy traffic today; you know what you’re doing and its become second nature or body knowledge, but you still must pay attention to all that’s going on around you at the same time.

I have a crystal clear memory of solo piloting this smaller UFO up and down the Nile numerous times, logging in flight-time hours evidently. We all used the Nile river below to know exactly where we were, kind of like that rope with attached floating balls on it to keep the little kids out of the deep end of the swimming pool! ;) We used the Nile as a clear guideline that showed us where we were and to not fly too far away from it…our rope in the huge swimming pool that Egypt was for us back then.

I’d fly from lower Egypt (where the Sphinx and Great Pyramid was), south to upper Egypt (these names were not used in this life and time but were added much later by others) where there were other large cities with huge UFO ports cut into the rock walls or cliffs. We’d park both the small and much larger UFOs in these huge carved out parking areas in the sides of cliffs much like large car parking lots or airplane hangers of today. We young starseeds would pick up and/or drop off certain supplies between these main large cities using the small UFOs, so it was both necessity and personal training at the same time. The real ancients were terribly efficient and never, ever did something, built something, created something for only one reason. Their consciousness simply didn’t function that way; it was multidimensional and so they did things for numerous reasons on numerous levels and dimensions at the same time…always.

Another very powerful and special memory I have with Orion was when he’d have one of his starseed students come to his teaching room. I have no memory of ever being in this room with another student. It seemed from what I’ve remembered so far that Orion preferred teaching all of us on a one-to-one basis.

Orion’s unique teaching room was a Holographic viewing room. When you first entered it there was nothing in there. It was totally empty, the walls were bare with nothing on them. It was a large dome shaped circular room that was like a white movie screen where images where projected. It was an empty round room where, when Orion turned on whatever it was he turned on, you were suddenly hovering somewhere within the 3D Milky Way galaxy!!!

Now of course this photo isn’t what it looked like inside Orion’s holographic galactic teaching room. It was holographic, three dimensional and you the viewer, were INSIDE of it and could view the entire Milky Way galaxy from any location, point, direction or level. It was breathtakingly spectacular and very, very, intense all at the same time. Talk about feeling lost and insignificant! The concept of “Home” takes on a totally different meaning when you are aware of, and can physically see, far more locations of the “Homes” of numerous different beings just within the Milky Way galaxy.

To visualize what I’m talking about place yourself inside this photo of our galaxy, make it real sized and 3D however and you can move yourself, your point of view around to anywhere within the Milky Way and view from there. That was what it was like inside of Orion’s galactic holograph viewing room!

After a few flights in Orion’s holograph galactic room he would eventually begin the real teachings. At first he didn’t allow you to speak while in his room but only view, adjust, feel and ponder. After you’d gotten over the shock of how vast and beautiful the physical Milky Way galaxy was, then Orion would begin the teachings and they had to do with educating you about inhabited locations within it. Orion taught us about our galactic heritage, the vast ancient galactic society, and the numerous physical locations within the Milky Way where all of us live/lived and/or came from. Orion taught Milky Way Galactic Geography.

Just like many people know states or countries (or even all of Earth) like the back of their hands, Orion from 8D and member of the Galactic Council, knew the Milky Way galaxy like the back of his hand! It was that small and well known to him as it was/is to many higher dimensional beings.

Once I got the basics down about what was where within the Milky Way galaxy, the next teaching step with Orion was about all the ASPECTS between numerous areas, star systems, and so on within the Milky Way galaxy. If you’re familiar with natal astrology and the aspects that astrologers interpret between the planets and angles etc. within our solar system in each natal chart, then this will be much easier to grasp because it’s basically the same thing just on a galactic scale.

Orion tried to teach me how to read and interpret galactic aspects within the whole of the Milky Way galaxy. I know, I know….. it makes my brain hurt just remembering and writing about it! He would eventually activate something else within his holographic room that looked like different colored lines of light that ran between different star systems and other galactic areas. There were “trines” and “squares” and “oppositions” and “sextiles” and so forth between numerous star systems and other galactic areas, just like in individuals natal charts. Orion knew these galactic aspects and galactic transits intimately and he struggled to teach me and the other starseeds this complex but beautiful 8D wisdom.

This was/is the way Orion and most other higher dimensional beings view this galaxy where so many of us have inserted or seeded ourselves into denser vibrating physical 3D reality (that is currently ascending to 5D awareness and light vibration). They’re capable of reading the Milky Way galaxy (and others) like astrologers read natal and location charts; natal and location charts with current transits, progressions, and so on. It’s the same thing to these higher dimensional beings…one unified area (the Milky Way) with lots and lots going on within it at different “times”, locations, galactic phases, cycles, transits etc. Possibly the Mayan Calendar with it’s numerous cycles within other cycles (just like current and long term transits within our solar system) will take on a different flavor and feel to some people now hearing this.

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See all the red, blue and green lines in the natal chart above? Those are lines showing the natal aspects within that particular chart. The graph below it that looks like stair steps with strange colored symbols in the little squares, are the natal aspects (between planets and angles) in GLYPH form. Orion’s holographic galactic viewing room would show different colored lines of light throughout the Milky Way galaxy that looked much like these different natal aspect lines, except they were three dimensional not flat like this natal chart is. And of course Orion’s different colored galactic aspect lines moved and changed slowly with the numerous different orbits and cycles. He could have his holographic galactic room show how things looked in the Milky Way far in the past, and he could move it far forward into the future (our current time) to show the positions and transits or alignments as they appear now. They’ve always known what was coming and the many potentials within our current times. This is why so many of us have reincarnated back on Earth now…to finish up this very ancient work.

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Comment by Tonya on May 18, 2017 at 9:09am
I have orion origin
Comment by Tanner on April 21, 2017 at 1:45am
I came here on a sort of needle in the haystack search for, nothing in specific. Basically, I'm hoping to read something and see if anyhing triggers. As of now, I remember almost nothing. The only tuing I know is that I was a flight commander, had blue skin, and there was a tragic event that I gotta heal wounds from in this life. I have a few brief memories of flying small ships through very advance cities, up above tall skyscrapers. Another of me being on a larger ship and seeing anothrr person behind a control console with a glass visor covering one eye attatched to his helmet. he had blue skin as well. In fact, the only memories i have that include other people, we were all the same blue skinned race. Looked exactly like humans in every other regard. Another was being in a kind of lab with someone i believe might have been a member of my spul group whos here in this life. She wore white clothes and was looking for an item for me. she was some sort of potion/medicine maker. But I have no memories of battles. I met a guy in this life who was the person behind the control console. He said we knew each other in the orion nebula, and he called me Commander. Specifically he called me Commander Travis Cody, and he regarded me as someone who was respected, revered just for being the person I was. I worked a small oddjob with him and another starseed and one night after working, we stopped at a grocery store parking lot and me and the other starseed were sitting in the car. When this guy, the one i knew long ago, came back, he looked at the other guy and said, you think youre the hitman.." and then he points to me and says, "HES the hitman! You dont even know, but hes the one they called in any time they needed someone wiped out. If the president needs to be assassinated, he comes in and gets real close and whispers in his ear. when he leaves the guy dies later on and nobody even knows anything, thinks it was all natural causes."

He spoke like I had this ability to kill people with my mind, and at the time, all I could rely on was the feeling of knowing if he was speaking the truth or not. Often enough, it would seem like it was even wrong to question it, like someuijg in me just agreed easily, yeah, hes pretty much right. But not having any memories myself, thats the best I could ever go on. I'm trying to learn as much as I can about what happened in that lifetime, so I started reading about the orion wars. One thing came up called the black league, and it sounds like it suits me. Reminds me of a dream i had a few nights ago and posted about here, where im the end of the dream, I was in a sort of camp, like a prison camp and i was preparing ammunition to fight against the guards. A set of twins were with me and they needed me to construct a "key" of sorts. I reverted back to my oldest personality and told them that I was one of "the dark riders", one of the rebels pretty much. Like I said, its a needle in the haystack search, but the best i have is seeing if these puzzle pieces match up to any information I can find.

One thing that struck me when I read your post was reading about the blue well. Instantly remembered the first vision i ever had after traveling through a sort of wormhole, I was transported into this sort of fountain area. Everything was crystaline and blueish and I was amazed but in my excitement I came back to my body. It was shortly after that that I had my first vision of our species, the blue people I called us.

There isnt much else to share, and I dont have anything else to go on, but ive learned that every once in a while, just by talking about it, someone could say something unexpected and the answer that was needed gets triggered out of nowhere, so i keep my hopes up.
Comment by Victor of Orion on February 16, 2017 at 7:08pm
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Comment by Victor of Orion on February 16, 2017 at 7:08pm
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Comment by Jon on February 16, 2017 at 6:13pm

Hello, would somebody teach me every about the reptilians, draco and just the Orion planes? I have been seeing Orion lately, since I've discovered what it was, and the T shaped constellation just interests me, maybe someone who has "been there?" or at least knows a lot about it, I'm very interested!

Comment by Anne on July 25, 2015 at 12:24am
This is the first part of my star origins reading.

Orion:A​s I tap into this imprint, I am seeing winged lions. I sense these being beings from Orion that you are connected with. I get the sense that these beings are connected with Babylonia and/or Sumeria. I see these beings guarding something very important in a golden box. I am also getting the sense that they protected you. I am seeing you wearing a headpiece that feels to be connected with that of Babylonian times. I feel that you held a position of power and were connected with these winged lions from Orion directly. These lions actually feel as though they are not only connected with Orion but the angelic realm. I feel that there’s some powerful information connected with all this. I am receiving an impression right now...the Annunaki. I have not personally studied these beings much..but I sense you are strongly connected with them.
Comment by Anne on July 5, 2015 at 11:36pm
I will look up info about Alnilam. I do ask a lot of questions if I want to know more about it, I also sometimes fixate on things and concentrate on what I do which sometimes annoys my parents.
Comment by Anne on July 5, 2015 at 10:22pm
That answers my star seed past life reading. It said she saw a huge circular figure that looks like a way station. I looked very similar to how I look now. My hair was short, blonde and perfectly styled. I had a long,slender body and wearing a grey suit. I was doing some work in this way station and it felt very technological in nature. The station felt like it is an important center of the universe as far as galactic races are concerned. The Orion beings did very important work there and it felt like a gathering space for more than just the Orion people.

My primary thing to do was study and do a lot of projects that required research and focus on my part. My energy in this life feels very focused,serious and still. I was really able to concentrate well as an Orion being. She saw a leopard looking being making its presence known during the reading. She sensed this animal being assists me with these aspects of my personality.

When she asked my spirit how the Orion life connects to this one, she was hearing "depth". She sensed me having a lot of depth to my personality. I have excellent analytical skills and tend to look very deeply into everyone and everything. I desire to have a deeper understanding of what goes on around me and may even study it to really grasp it firmly. She sensed the Orion incarnation has had an effect on my mind. She was being shown an Orion being with a very large head... It feels like it stores large quantities of information and processes many things at once. She sensed this is a representation of how my mind tends to operate. It does this because it was necessary during my Orion life... I have just carried it over into this one.
Comment by Agent J on July 5, 2015 at 3:24pm
@Lyuba Alnilam is the center star if I ruins belt. A point of creation and and meeting 9 many many different beings
Comment by Anne on July 5, 2015 at 2:54pm
What star in Orion is a way station that was also a important center in the universe and a gathering space for more than just the Orion people?

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