The Consciousness Has Shifted...The Awakening Has Begun
He has some very good material on youtube. And 50% of the stuff sound fear based, and 50% sounds awakened,enlightened.
Not sure what to thin kabout that :)
But I usually know when I find a guru that brings me joy
In fact I heard a video from him where 90% was impossible to verify what he spoke about. Shapeshifitng reptilians etc. And he saw them everywhere.
Kept speaking about that.
Then he also spoke about OBE's.
I would rather hear Deepak chopra i think. and he is quite controversial to many people too
Yet he did seem to know what he spoke about when he spoke about buddhism
Not sure what to say about icke... thats the best i can put it
He certainly doesn't convince me. If lucky he may not be a misinformer.
I would rather listen to a guru... maybe maharishi, ram dass, eckhart tolle
They serve god. No doubt there.
It is as sure as amen in the church.
Sorry if this is a bit off topic, but has anyone been to David Icke's forum? I guess it's members follow him? From what I've seen there, it's a chaos. People blame everyone. I'm not sure are some in panic, but I've read some topic where they believe angels are evil and just some alien race that take form in a shape of an angel to misguide and trick us. And so on. I actually came to that forum long time ago to find out more and I was interested in truth, but I got even more confused then. Otherwise, I don't know much about Dave and his intentions, is he lost or found, maybe both.
That is also my understanding of his information. But I can see no compelling reason to use reptilian beings in his assessment of the geopolitical situation. To claim without evidence that the elites or the power structure or what have you are in fact a legion of shapeshifting reptilians which have infiltrated our society... it seems utterly naive. Is it not possible that human beings are capable of shortsighted or sociopathic action? That we might be capable of harming one another, obscuring and denying truth, and enforcing our will on others? Or are all humans who have done harm suddenly and conveniently called reptilian infiltrators? Isn't this the same logic that founded the witch trials? notions of demonic possession? all other manner of superstitions used to explain why people commit evil acts.
My first intuition, one that I still believe to be true, is that the so-called "reptilian agenda" is a way of externalizing or projecting human evils onto a scapegoat or thought-form so that we do not have to face our insecurities about the reality of said human evil. It is a way of saving ourselves, of relinquishing responsibility. Because if we admit that human beings have the capacity to perpetrate this kind of evil, we must face that same capacity for evil in ourselves.
It doesn't change what must be done. The agenda is the same, the harms are the same. I don't care who people blame or what illusions they must believe in to preserve their psyche. But I am concerned that encouraging this kind of fear and hatred of the other is in fact counterproductive.
At least I can respect that. There is a lot of mystery buried in so-called "forbidden archaeology". Still it's telling that he zeroes in on the draconic and reptilian beings when there are just as many depictions of avians, canids, felines, humanoids, zetans, and so on... many of them represented as gods ruling over humanity. To single out one ethnic type seems arbitrary, unless it is an intentional appeal to people's instinctual fear of reptiles. And I must question why shapeshifting beings intent on infiltrating the upper echelons of government would appear in their native reptilian forms to primitive peoples... why then and not now? Doesn't that seem the least bit convenient, that they may be reptilian even if they're not because hey, shapeshifters?
I suppose you're right. Evil is a convoluted subject. Morality is relative and all that. I guess I've learned to place so much emphasis on balance that anything which deliberately upsets that balance seems evil. And while the world is only in balance when creative and destructive forces work in unison, it feels as though the trajectory of our society bends toward annihilation.
Hi Vala. I have never felt anything good from Icke -- and I've known about him a long time, even during his days as a BBC sports broadcaster. I have starseed friends who undoubtedly will disagree profoundly with me here, but Icke's energy does not feel conducive in the least. I haven't read any of his books: I don't feel I need to. For me, intuition is the key about any kind of energy and we all follow our own souls, don't we? :)
Ike has it right and wrong. A lot of ET groups operating here on earth have their criminal elements attempting to profit from the naive humans. Some are bored looking for fun others just for plain old profit. So reptilians... from personal experience the Pleiadians (sp) are the biggest of the criminally interfering races, messages of peace and love... a good smoke screen... their messages are not quite as spiritually as many make them out to be.
The biggest problem we all have when the truth is sought is the unofficial US policy of direct interference with anything to do with the esoteric. The whole area was weaponized and put under close monitoring by Ronald Reagan as part of his star wars project. So the US tax dollars are spent in mass by black ops groups to spy on New Agers, Pagans and anyone who crosses a specific spiritual threshold. Misinformation campaigns have become so great that myself I find any spiritual book written after 1984 to be more often misleading than true or a good source for personal growth. So look at books and materials before that date if you wish to learn how the spiritual side of things actually work.
In conclusion Ike means well but I feel he has been manipulated by black ops into writing a lot of gibberish. Take his main themes as correct.. but search for your own facts that can be correlated from unrelated sources. Once again prior 1984 material is best.
Hi List of Good Books and Videos (older ones) Most are on esoteric not really New Age... more generic to most paths..sources of info.
Dave’s Video + Book List
Many of the books on this list are becoming hard to find.
Used book stores are an invaluable place to find some of the older esoteric books in general at low prices.
The Morning of the Magicians by Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier; about various occult groups 1960
These two books are by the Psychic Mark Probert and getting hard to find.
The Magic Bag: A Manuscript Dictated Clairaudiently to Mark Probert link to purchase
E Yada di Shi’ite, Clairaudiently to Mark Probert website http://www.soulwise.net/yada-00.htm this book is available from Amazon
The Jane Roberts Seth Speaks (I liked) and her books are not bad. I liked her book the Education of Over Soul Seven.. a fiction account of what a Spirit Guide deals with when helping out an earth plodder)
Ruth Montgomery books Books in General. She did automatic writing and was a well known news paper columnist. See Amazon. These books are easy reading and a good introduction those new in areas of Atlantis, ETs, Healing. Earth Changes, Past Civilizations etc.
Grandfather by Tom Brown Jr.
Awakening Spirits: A Native American Path to Inner Peace, Healing, and Spiritual Growth (Religion and Spirituality) by Tom Brown Jr. (This book provides a short cut method to stepping into spirit by passing the meditation approach)
A number of Tom Brown Jr.s books may be of interest too
Psychic Self-Defense: The Classic Instruction Manual for Protecting Yourself Against Paranormal Attack Paperback – August 1, 2011 by Dion Fortune I did not buy any of her other books but this one was excellent.
Hearts in Atlantis (2001 director Scott Hicks) A good movie but theme of US government picking up Psychics
What Dreams May Come (1998 director Vincent Ward)
Babylon 5 TV series (aliens and earth interaction with one group called the Shadows and the other Vorlons created 1994 creator J. Michael Straczynski )
The material is for those who are looking and enjoy.. Yes i have many others too..