The Consciousness Has Shifted...The Awakening Has Begun
Yup. The great beef holocaust is pretty bad as it stands.
The answer is still as simple as ego reduction, and all the other stuff comes naturally. Reduce ego = reduction of materialism and waste = better more aware society. I believe a surprisingly high number are scared to go vegan or vegetarian due to the stigma in many places.
And in the end the planet isin't going anywhere, so its really up to us.
Tell that to Orcas (killer whales)
They kill for sport. They kill and waste.
Orcas kill Grey Whales just to eat the tongue and leave the rest of the body to rot.
Orcas will hold down a baby whale, and then cover the blowhole, to drown it.
Should we exterminate Orcas from the earth?
Vegans and Vegetarians fail to realize that humans are not alone in cruelty.
Did not know that. It's an interesting piece of information, though somewhat irrelevant? I think the purpose of the thread is to do the opposite of extermination. If the Orcas decide to kill then that's their choice I guess.
You're trying to imply that there is killing in nature. And that because nature kills there is nothing wrong with us killing to eat, as its a natural process, correct? "It's just the way it is". This is quite shoddy reasoning. As higher level beings we have a duty and responsibility to have respect for life. Otherwise, can we really complain if an extra-terrestrial life form such as reptiles decide to dominate us completely? Where does that stop, I mean do us first world citizens not have a right to rule over the third world, because that is just the way it is. It's only natural that the strong dominate and take over the weak, right?
It was the way it was because it had to be the way it was. Now we have evolved. There are more than enough resources. And it does not do any good to have a divide between me and them "vegans" and "vegetarians". I don't identify as a vegan or a vegetarian, though I really only eat vegan food.
Vegans and vegetarians fully realize that humans are not alone in cruelty. But they also recognize that this is in no way a justification for cruelty.
Argumentation is not advocation.
Call me cruel with neither evidence nor rational reason and you only make a fool of yourself.
Encouraging people to see from your perspective is never a right choice.
It's the same concept as threatening hell and damnation to get people to be and act like you.
Are you proposing we "invade" the orcas because we are good and its out civic duty to set them straight? Or are you saying we should act like the orcas and kill because it is natural? Very dualistic thinking. I believe in neither option. We will not invade the orcas. And we will not kill others ( man or animal) simply because, yanno, the orcas are doing it. Its not our job to set the universe straight. Who are we to say what is cruel or right or wrong?
You don't seem to fully understand abundance. There is more than enough food and wealth to feed the planet many times over. But the scarcity lie is often perpetrated to infect mainly the young and emotional. We do not need to kill animals. It just lines the pockets of the slaughterhouse owners. And there is a huge difference between killing naturally in the wild as opposed to setting up slaughterhouses where animals are put on a production line to be routinely massacred. That sure as hell ain't natural in my book. Then again I would never force anybody to go vegan or vegetarian. That's simply not up to me, despite having strong feelings on the matter.
I AGREE there is justification in killing to eat. I DO NOT AGREE that we need to kill animals to eat. And in the next couple of decades the world is going vegetarian and vegan, to the betterment of all species. That's just how it goes.
but meat is good
There is nothing fundamentally wrong with eating meat. We have done it forever.Be we are going through an evolutionary phase. A large part of that will involve a lack of butchering animals for the heck of it. Because it will kill your vibration.
The entire world will not go vegan or vegetarian. Then again the entire world will not ascend. And I guess choosing not to ascend is a personal choice.
Meat is good. Until you stop eating meat and toxins for a prolonged period and eat meat and toxins. Then you isolate what it is actually doing to your body. Then you arrive at the inevitable conclusion that no, meat is most certainly not good.
i love meat
I love meat too. Even the Dalai Lama eats meat. Plants are life too. Everything has spiritual energy. Perhaps badly treated animals have lower vibrational energies to consume and take on as part of your vibration but everything is one.
@ Brandy Jones
Dali Lama gave up meat after witnessing the slaughter, as would many. He had to return due to health reasons, and only ate in the first place because "I got used to it". In other words born in a toxic world we do what we must. They are not allowed kill animals for food as per their religion, but will eat meat when slaughtered by other religions. (I think this is deplorable but it does seem to be standard practice).
The takeaway is that no meat would be eaten if the world was full of Dali Lamas. Not that we should eat meat because the Dali Lama does.
Everything is one,thus why would one want to eat such low vibration if it is quite literally going to become you? The fear of the slaughtered animal cannot be cooked out. Sure, many say that they can simply tune up their vibration or some such(I'm very skeptical they know what they're talking about, the ones who can are masters and don't rely on meat anyway),but why would you want to waste such energy?